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26 Jul 2010, 13:15
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Apogee Symphony I/O
Shameless pimpage, because this is our site and I/we can:
 http://www.mercenary.com/apogee-symio.html -Dan.
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26 Jul 2010, 13:43
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Dan, leave the shameless pimping to the sales staff will ya?
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26 Jul 2010, 20:50
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Since we're already on topic...
Is this a Mac only box? (Im running a RME HDSP AES card in a PC) Do you feel it is the best sounding Apogee converter (as they claim)? Sonically, how does it stack up to the other high end converters Mercenary sells? As always, thanks for the info. |
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27 Jul 2010, 00:03
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i just hope i can use it with a symphony 32 pci-e card and the two rosettas i already own and dont need to upgrade to the 64
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27 Jul 2010, 00:06
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27 Jul 2010, 02:38
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My hope was that the AES output could connect to my RME card and they could talk to one and other. I believe that would work... someone stop me if I'm mistaken...
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27 Jul 2010, 11:09
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I believe that would work for any converter as long as you have the right cables.
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27 Jul 2010, 11:48
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Aski simply needs the right AES/EBU DSUBS for his RME card - and you can indeed use the Symphony I/O in stand alone without issue. He would buy a Symphony I/O frame with the two 8X8 Analog and AES I/O cards and set the unit into Stand Alone mode where Analog Inputs route to AES outputs and reversely AES inputs routes to Analog outputs.
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27 Jul 2010, 12:46
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Looks like an interesting box... It's pretty, for sure.
Apogee's website says it replaces the Rosetta 800, and the AD and DA16X units. At a minimum, this thing costs $3650, more than any of those three! If I bought it for use with, say, my PTLE system, I would be using the analog-to-ADAT cards... it would be a standalone converter with computer interface capabilities (Symphony) that I could never use (I use Windows). Looks like PTHD connectivity is also standard, which I would potentially use in the future. I dunno about Apogee's marketing with this guy... Seems the computer interface portion should be an add-on card, as well, like it is with the other converters. That'd make it cheaper for those who don't need that capability.
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27 Jul 2010, 15:49
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I'm blind to a lot of things so I could have missed this, but it looks like PT HD capabilities is Mac only.
http://apogeedigital.com/products/sy...?mode=protools Just spoke to Mixwell. Seems it will hookup to any HD rig just no control over it with Maestro.
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27 Jul 2010, 16:43
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Regarding the pricing, if you add an X-HD card to a Rosetta 800, you're up over $3200, which is pretty close to the price of the Symphony I/O with the 8Analog+AES card. Where it really seems to be a bargain compared to their current offerings is stacked up against an AD-16X & DA-16X w/ HD cards. That'll run you $7350 vs $5685 for the SymIO. Granted, if you're a PTHD user, it's still more than a $4000 Digi 192, but there's a lot less of a difference now than there was a week ago. -Dan.
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28 Jul 2010, 12:19
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It seems [from Apogee's own words] You'll be able to control Maestro Parameters through the PC32 Connection to the HD card. Its also clear there are like ten ways to control the software and configuration for the unit; leaving everyone with a way to utilize the features. Surely they are much more "mac OS centered" but hey; such is life. I'll have to ask Apogee more about this; as it seems a little unclear, but that's what I got out of the text. PT|HD connection is definitely not limited to Mac OS, that's for sure. I think a number of other benefits might be easy to overlook as well. For instance, IF you have a Mac Computer, and WANT to use PT LE. You can use the Symphony I/O in a couple cool ways. The first is obvious as an 8X8 Optical ADA. Picture this; You are using PT LE with this Apogee converter, and having to run your buffers higher with a large multi-track session. Now we all know PT LE has no facility to monitor the optical ports with a built in near zero DSP mixer. Well, here you have it with Maestro. Simply connect the unit to your Computer via USB and route the inputs to the outputs and now your problem is solved. Another important thing to note; is that this thing is said to be able to achieve 16 Channels of 44.1-96K capable throughput over USB for Core Audio Apps. Does anyone else claim that? Nope.
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Adam Brass SOLDIER Mercenary Audio The METHods and Applications LABoratory adam@mercenary.com "Any opinions above are worth exactly what you paid for them." Anonymous "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. Thomas Edison RTFM Last edited by Mixwell; 28 Jul 2010 at 12:35. |
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30 Jul 2010, 15:39
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But how does it soooooound?
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30 Jul 2010, 17:29
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w/ the specifications they have presented -
And w/ my discussions with Apogee - I'm going to make a very well educated guess that this ADA converter is easily a large and palpable percentage [eh - shall I use the term - "different"] to the previous converter options.
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04 Aug 2010, 20:01
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CHRIS answered my question about what Alex brought up -
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...ml#post5654894
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Adam Brass SOLDIER Mercenary Audio The METHods and Applications LABoratory adam@mercenary.com "Any opinions above are worth exactly what you paid for them." Anonymous "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. Thomas Edison RTFM |
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08 Aug 2010, 10:52
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adam tell us how this beast sounds
so i started reading a thread on another forum about how this unit performs and the whole thing really irritated the shit out me. so please enlighten us on your experience with this unit.
is it really as good as radar?
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Serious. Everything I said on that forum is how I found the sound. Try to ignore the nonsense.
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